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Are there higher rates of body dysmorphia now in men than before? For the longest it was mainly women fucking themselves up with surgery but now the main are playing at higher numbers
Social media (and Hollywood) are doing it to everyone.
Beauty standards were always unrealistic, but now they’re acutely un-real. Filters, AI and plastic surgery have got people believing some crazy shit about what an attractive human being looks like.
I workout a lot, just to keep in shape not as one of those incel looks maxxer types. But i was teaching my younger nephew how to work out safely & he said he wants that "marvel physique", so I had to explain that its all steroids & fake. You cannot look like that just from working out, not if you have a life to live anyway. He looked at me like I was bullshitting so I had to show him evidence & explain you do not need to look like a Greek God to be fit or find a partner, just being toned and in good shape will help to set you apart from most other people in the dating world & in daily life. Its disgusting really the damage its doing to their sense of identity that they feel they have to meet these impossible standards.
True, but people can grasp the tragedy of one person much more quickly and at a deeper level than they can for a group of people.
It’s why when charity ads have been tested, donations were highest when one needy child was shown, the larger the number of kids shown, the lower the donations.
They’re also only focusing on the superficial. Not focusing on being creative or witty or humorous. There are many ways to live a life and being an obsessive gym junkie is only one of them and unbeknownst to them not even the healthiest one. I actually go to the gym and try to eat right but I stay away from the social media bullshit or anyone who tells me I’m not good enough and need to be taking anything else other than eating healthily most of the time. I also want other things in my life. I thought the gym would be the most fulfilling thing and it’s great but it’s just to keep my mind and body in check so I can do other things like write, sing, create, take care of my loved ones.
The problem is these kids are filling themselves up with hormone injections. Clavicular actually admitted that he is impotent at the age of 20 because of the steroids.
I thought the whole point of this was to be “alpha” male and to get girls… but now they’re impotent? I don’t get it.
This, I have a nephew who is 30 and only dates beautiful girls. He has been single for a while now and everyone tells him how many single girls there are. But he just says they’re not up to his standards. It’s sad because at this rate he’ll probably end up alone. There’s no such thing as a perfect person.
I have a coworker like this. She’ll go out with a guy a few times, talk about how much she likes him how he’s great etc., then she’ll stop talking to them, when me and another coworker ask why (we’re nosey), the reason is always like “oh he said he plays video games after work” or “he said he’s a cat person.” Like she genuinely really likes them as people, they’re attractive guys, good careers, and she drops them because they like video games and cats. Tinder etc. has absolutely ruined dating lol
I can see what you're saying but look at all these people getting surgeries, they're not approaching any beauty standard, they all look like distorted Picasso drawings. There's got to be something else deeper.
Like all the old ladies on Facebook that post horrible pictures with horrible makeup, it's because their eyesight is bad and they think it looks like something else.
Absolutely. My wife is a secondary (high school) teacher in Ireland and she has 13yr old boys coming in that don't eat sugar and work out all the time, wear tight fitting shirts or roll their sleeves up.
Growing up i only remember girls doing wild stuff like this. Beauty magazines were to blame and there was enough pushback to tackle this issue. Social media doing same thing to boys
God, I’m glad I grew up when I did. All we cared about was a cheeky drink down the park, a packet of fags and good times with our mates. Getting piercings and dyeing our hair was about the height of what we didn’t ourselves.
There is actually a secondary school in my town and outside it they have a chippy van. A lady I work with said the guy that runs it told her back when her kids were going there (her kids are my age, early 30s, all went to school In the 2000s) he used to get loads of business from the school kids but he doesn’t get as much now because the kids are all into healthy stuff. It’s good that the kids are looking to be healthier but it doesn’t actually come from a healthy place or mindset. It comes from body dysmorphia and eating disorders being glorified by twats on social media.
No, rates of body dysmorphia haven’t changed as a ratio between men and women - what has changed is access to treatments and social acceptance (particularly amongst men) who then decide yes, they can do something (drastic) about their appearance.
In other words, men previously struggling with dysmorphia didn’t feel they could do anything about it, now they do.
I would also say dysmorphia is up regardless of gender due to social media.
I’d also say that being on social media means you see more cases of it, giving the impression that it’s on the increase.
A lot of factors at play, you could write a thesis on it. But women are definitely still the most affected by quite a large margin.
Exactly - surgery can’t fix your vibe. He was cute before - alien after. Went out with a lot of guys when I was single. Vibes are 80% of attraction. Never liked anyone looking for approval and secretly didn’t accept themselves. It’s obvious.
Body dysmorphic disorder does not have that big a difference in incidence between genders. A recent study found 16% of women and 11% of men with BDD. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11979448/
I think echo chambers with more people in them because of the internet is the problem. It's making problems balloon and changing what "the norm" is for so many, body dysmorphia being one of them
Yeah but in this trend it's often real world echo chambers, maybe not this guy specifically but especially among wealthy Hollywood types it's become completely normal to look like a weird alien surrounded by weird alien friends. Discussing surgeries like they talk about the weather and pointing out each other's "flaws" like still looking human in one tiny area
Looksmaxxxer so yes. Let's just say that not that long ago one of these wankers died because he had been injecting gold onto his bloodstream because he believed it to be a "secret hidden away by the elites"
Yeah im a fat dude and ive always been teased about it so its made me nice and insecure, but id never do anything drastic to try and change how I look. Ive tried to exercise, eat a little healthier or just less in general, it doesnt usually last long so ive kind of just accepted its who I am and people are going to tease from time to time
Was thinking the same. Pic 1, yea I’ll talk to you and your personality is the problem. Pic 2, no I won’t talk to you and your insecurity is the problem.
Yeah but the girls rejecting him likely gave him actual answers that he ignored, and he likely assumed his looks instead of actually listening to them.
These idiots will listen to a thousand men on Reddit before they’ll listen to a single woman about why women don’t like them.
You’d be surprised the number of people on Reddit who wholeheartedly believe looks are all that matter. Sure they matter a little, but there’s plenty you can do to improve your looks that isn’t…this.
Nah fam, what these looksmaxxer types are going for is that Miami nightclub type of shit. Same with everyone else in the manosphere. They all want to be the guy who walks into the club and turns heads after getting out of his Ferrari instead of being the guy who’s actually fun to be around. Sad really.
Well we don't know him, the people who rejected him, or even the kind of social circles around him. He was rejected possibly for his physicality, for his personality, or for his social skills. We don't know. All we know is that he attributed it to his look and did that.
Dare I say he was cutie with a lot of potential?! Seriously a nice haircut and a PERSONALITY would’ve made the difference. This shit is getting out of hands 🫠
Yeah no. As a fully hetro sexual man, i can say that appearance wise dude looked fine before. Dare I'd say he looked attractive. Give him a cool haircut, some nice clothes, and have a good personality and he'd be swimming in female attention.
I worked with a young man who was obsessed with looking "more masculine" with weight training etc because he believed that's why he wasn't getting women.
And somehow, we as a society have convinced ourselves it's no longer a doctor's responsibility or right to deny people the consequences of their terrible choices
This is a controversial statement I’m about to make…
An awful lot of people who feel they’re in the wrong body, are too ugly, need to torture themselves for beauty, who wear way too much makeup or shop around for doctors to give them HRT and the like… a majority of these individuals would benefit much, much more if they got help in feeling comfortable in their own bodies. Sure, the obese can work to lose weight (appropriately), makeup is still okay to use, and some people will need a LOT more help than others (in various ways), but, “It’s okay to be you” and, “Learn to be happy in your own skin,” would truly put a majority of these individuals on a better path.
I don’t understand why so many people insist I’m the worst type of person who’s ever lived for saying this (since hyperbole seems to rule supreme these days), but I’m going to say if anyway and hope it’ll help at least someone.
What gets me is how he actually looked good in the first picture. I know loads of women who would date someone looking like that. Dude even had nice jawlines.
Now he looks like a tube of toothpaste on the end of its rope.
Dude was a haircut away from having a dime piece girlfriend and did literally everything he could to destroy his face, and never cut the mop on his head.
I’m gonnna go out on a limb considering how normal he looks and how I’ve seen plenty of dudes who look way worse not have this problem, that he had an absolutely shitty personality and probably needed a doctor for meds or therapy or some shit.
What he def didn’t need was someone to carve his face into whatever the fuck that is. Dude must have some major body dysmorphia if he thinks that shit look even remotely good. Yikes.
those people are fucked up in the brain.....but this one is terrifying. He used to be actually good looking. Why would you spend such money and do such things to your face is beyond my comprehension
I miss when people just looked like people, and not like plastic versions of themselves. I know everyone is critical of their appearance, and most of us are far harsher on ourselves than we should be. But somewhere along the way, we started chasing an unrealistic idea of beauty, perfect skin, identical features, exaggerated lips, frozen expressions, and faces that look more like dolls than real human beings.
The more plastic and artificial beauty becomes, the more disconnected it feels from real life. We’re all starting to look at ourselves through filters and impossible standards, forgetting that real faces have imperfections, expressions, and character.
There was something beautiful about looking like a real person. I wish we could appreciate that again.
No matter where you go, there you are-- Instead of considering his personality, attitudes, general vibe, approaches as possibly why he had women allegedly rejecting him, he leaps into major surgery as the solution. Unfortunately him looking like a villain in a comic will definitely be a killer of most relationships.
If you are one of those weird asses that think he looks better AFTER,you are clearly as mentally ill as him,and you have HUGE issues. Clearly before is by far better than this horror! I would think this guy was on deaths door if i was on the same party as him.
It is not the looks of this guy that kept the girls away! I am sure they will be kept away now tho!
Looks maxxing is the the most stupid idea since voting in Trump into office.
The only thing wrong before was probably his personality. He wasn’t a bad looking guy. That money would have been better spent on therapy to improve his personality and a good haircut. Instead he looks like some weird horror video game character.
Dude went from looking pretty good to looking like he's on death's door. Don't think it has anything to do with how you look, dude. Think it's more of a shitty personality thing.
I think it is a good thing that he decided to have the red flags on the inside displayed on his face as well, makes it easier for us girls to avoid him
Neither of these is the real guy. I’ve seen his Instagram, all of his content is an ironic take on this exact bit, he doesn’t look like either of these pictures without the filters and AI he uses, and he looks different in every post which is the dead giveaway.
Dude looked fine. Like he should have rizmax, hobbymax, public speaking maxx, exposure-to-women-in-third-spaces maxx whatever. This is what single variable optimazation leads you to.
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